Let’s walk through the key points. First, **equity credit on hybrids** is valuable if a company wants to maintain leverage ratios without diluting shareholders. S&P caps the equity credit at **15% of total adjusted capital** (debt + equity). From ERG’s data: - **Equity at end of 2022**: ~€2.055 billion. - **Total liabilities**: ~€3.172 billion. - **Total adjusted capital**: €5.227 billion. - **15% cap**: ~€784 million of hybrids could get equity credit. Second, looking at **leverage**: - ERG has net financial debt (roughly) of €1.75 billion non-current financial liabilities + €0.39 billion current financial liabilities minus €0.39 billion cash = ~€1.75 billion. - Debt-to-equity is already ~0.85x, which isn’t excessive, but the firm is capital-intensive (renewables). - In 2022, they had significant expansion (PP&E and service concession rights increased) and high CapEx (€307 million). Third, **earnings stability**: - EBITDA is strong (€499 million in 2022) and growing. - However, discontinued operations heavily inflated net profit—continuing operations profit was €89 million. - Rising interest rate environment (swap curve up sharply in 2022) means new debt or hybrid issuance would be more costly. Given their growth needs and the benefit of non-dilutive capital, using some hybrids makes sense. But **full 100%** of the 15% cap might be unnecessary and expensive—especially when traditional debt could still be issued at reasonable spreads. A **middle-ground usage** (50%) would help balance cost and credit metrics without saturating the structure. 50%